In the Vice Presidential Debate, both Governor Palin and Senator Biden forgot to check some of their facts.
For example, Palin said that the United States has reduced troops in Iraq to a number below the level of troops at the start of the the troop increase in 2007.
Nope, there are currently 152,000 troops in Iraq, which is 17,000 more than were there before the military buildup began.
On the other side, Biden claimed that McCain wants to give the oil companies a $4 billion tax cut, when in reality, McCain wants to cut income taxes for all corporations and does not single out a certain industry.
Though I guess we should figure out who actually voted for what.
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At first, when i read the summary of the article I thought "big deal" everyone makes mistakes when they speak. I know I’ve done it and so has everyone else but after reading the article on msnbc.com i found out these errors were not just simple mix-ups. Both Palin and Biden equally said wrong facts during the debate, which is just inexcusable. If you are going to be VP of the country you need to know what is going on and what you are saying you support and oppose!
I agree with xx redskins xx, everyone makes mistakes every once in a while but if you are public figure let alone possibly the next VP of the United States, you need to know your facts. Its ridiculous that both of them messed up so badly with their facts and makes me not want either of them to make it to the White House because if they are making this many little mistakes, whats going to happen when they do evenutally make it to the White House...?
The fact that the lies did not seem accidental is pretty interesting. It's almost as if the campaigns are testing the public in a sense, because I'm sure much of America will remember more of the debate as it was occuring rather than the aftermath hype that always occurs.
Both VPs campaigns promoted this tactic, I'm sure. And I suppose, when viewers hear what they want to hear, tides can be easily turned.
I also read somewhere (Washington Post I believe) that Palin referred to the leading general in Afghanistan as "General McClellan". In reality, his name is General David McKiernan. While the names are close, McClellan was a Civil War general who definitely had nothing to do with the number of troops currently in Afghanistan.
When you have to answer so many questions you are bound to make mistakes.Still, this makes me a little suspicious. Are they making up these facts to support their arguments? I really don't want a corrupt politician in office. Still,I
think that they're honest mistakes that anyone could make under pressure.
Although they both clearly made "mistakes" I thought that a lot of what Biden had to say were accusations and negativity of McCain, whereas Palin's debates mostly were about what McCain would do instead of condoning Obama or patronizing him. I think Biden's repetitive and censuring tactics were not that effective. Had he just stressed the changes Obama was going to make, he would've have been much more efficacious.
I found that during the debate that when they both would get worked up they spoke faster and then the accusations started to fly. Once that happen they might have slipped up and ya they made mistakes but that just made it all the more fun to see who wold fall harder.
Even though we are all just human beings and we make mistakes, it's unacceptable for the two possible VPs of the US to be messing up important facts like that. If they truly knew what was going on, they would have corrected themselves once they realized that they had made a mistake, however, they obviously never realized that they had said anything wrong. They didn't realize that one another had said anything wrong either because they didn't correct each other on these mistakes. The future VP should absolutely know what's going on in America.
I agree with most people. I think that minor mistakes are acceptable but when it comes to issues like the Iraq War and tax cut, there shouldn't be any mistakes. These are major issues that the public pays attention to. Especially as VP candidates, Biden and Palin should have been much more careful. It's ridiculous how both the VP candidates are making such mistakes. Now, it makes me feel that neither have the qualification to become the next VP of the United States.
It seems to me that it hurts the credibility of both the VP candidates. It shows that Palin for one does not aware of the issues or current statistical figures at hand. And it shows that Biden despite the fact that he has been in the Senate for such a long time is not in touch with what is happening either. Perhaps neither of them are truly worthy of being VP and were just chosen in order play a facade that would attempt to cover up the presidential candidates down points in the public's eye.
yeah I agree with basically everyone here ,the vps need to pretty much get their butts in gear and figure out their facts and what their position on it is. also just a little side note, when they were talking about the gay marriage issue.. I was quite confused because I thought they were saying they were for it and stuff but then at the end palin was like I agree with biden which is we're against it. or something like that. maybe I just heard what they were saying wrong.
I think to say that all humans make mistakes is a dangerous excuse and does not do us any good. I understand we all are not "perfect" as people, but we elect our officials because they should do what we need them to - and that is to make good decisions and choices that we can stand by.
We thought the same thing with the last President and Administration, and look where we are now.
Let's not make that same mistake again.
I think some of the mistakes may have been intentional in order to sway the opinions of the people. There may have been some mistakes that were unintentional, but I think that it may have been part of their tactics to make false accusations and claims. In all honesty though, Palin mentioning General McClellan was pretty hilarious. He is possibly one of the most important people concerning the war and she can't even get him straight.
Although it it is a human tendency to make mistakes, our potential VP's shouldn't be making such drastic ones. I remember there were times during the debate where Biden would say something and then Palin would completely refute Biden's statement,so I wasn't too sure who I could believe. I'm not surprised that they made mistakes because I am sure that some of them were intentional. After all, lying is a strategy that the presidential candidates and VPs use every election time.
This is something you can expect from everyone. They are put on the spot to answer questions and they pull something out of their tail so they dont stand there speachless. I heard on the news that Senator Biden falsly stated facts 12 times and Governor Palin did it 3 times. Once or twice is fine but when you exeed that much it is just unacceptable. You need to know the facts inside and out if you want to be a VP for this country.
It's okay. People probably just told them the wrong facts or something. Everybody makes mistakes.
its true all humans are bound to make mistakes in life, but if your a public figure & especially running for an office position (such as vice president) you should make sure your facts are straight.
It's funny how this became such a huge political problem, but than again if you are a political figure - its bound to be a big thing. They made small mistakes and overall, I find it more important about how they can help our government in the future rather than over analyzing the past.
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